Redline SBK Subday in May at GingerMan for $100!!!!!!!!

[STT GUY]

Ok guys and gals,

I have been able to secure GingerMan for Sunday May 16th. We can camp Saturday night and South Haven is a nice town to hang out in as well.

This event is open to a couple of clubs only. TSBR, Ohio Riders, CLSB, RedLine SBK.. You must be a member of the club to participate. This is where your club membership pays you back.. $100 is a great price for a fun dat at the track.

Details:

WHEN: Sunday May 16

WHERE: GingerMan Raceway

COST: $100

MISC: NO STT MEMBERSHIP REQUIRED

HOW TO REGISTER: CALL 888-390-4020 (after Feb 20th)

[flamingemu]

Sweet offer. Even though I'm not a big fan of Gingerman, I'll go back and give it another chance. Thanks!

[Corn Fed]

^ Alright Nelson, keep an open mind :)

[flamingemu]

^ Alright Nelson, keep an open mind :)

Haha - only because they re-worked the track this winter. I'm still skeptical, but would like to be proven wrong.

[marc_padin]

Haha - only because they re-worked the track this winter. I'm still skeptical, but would like to be proven wrong.

So, are you going???? I am tying to figure out when I am supposed to travel to Indy but if the dates don't collide, then I think I want in...

[six2one]

id consider doing this...100 bucks for some cheap thrills...

[ilikebikes]

When does my membership end?

[six2one]

When does my membership end?

april when the dues come...due

but you have been dead to us for awhile :-)


p.s. i love the boots

[flamingemu]

When does my membership end?

Never! (as long as you keep paying the piper of course) :doublefinger:

[DemonRR]

i might be down for this. just hoping the surface isnt as bad as ive heard in the past.

[six2one]

i might be down for this. just hoping the surface isnt as bad as ive heard in the past.

just put a brush guard on your bike and you will be all set! :cool2:


but i am heavily considering this. the layout of gingerman is nice and simple...good for n00bs like me. no blind turns

[ilikebikes]

april when the dues come...due

but you have been dead to us for awhile :-)


p.s. i love the boots


I'm not dead, I'm hybernating.... Glad you like the boots..:cool2:

[Bufalojump]

Is this for all classes Novice to Advanced?

Thanks,
Steve

[flamingemu]

Is this for all classes Novice to Advanced?


I would assume this is the standard three group format. If it isn't, I'm sure Monte will let us know.

[curveman]

i might be down for this. just hoping the surface isnt as bad as ive heard in the past.

No somersault's at Gingerman!!! It's not bad and I'll be in for this and more!

[AlmightyS]

Monte,
first off Thanks for the hook up!!
If you need any assistance confirming who are members or not from Redline Superbike, please let us know.

[marc_padin]

Is anyone interested in this track day????? Here is a little vid on Gingerman... It looks fun!!!


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[AlmightyS]

:usuckat:

[six2one]

Is anyone interested in this track day????? Here is a little vid on Gingerman... It looks fun!!!


look at my gti video from gingerman...its like 18mins of going slow. hahaha...that track is so shitty. but its super simple and alittle less intimidating than grattan...ill prob do this.

[flamingemu]

:usuckat:
Considering the poster, that's a major burn. :devilfire:

[marc_padin]

Considering the poster, that's a major burn. :devilfire:
Not my fault this one time... Here is the linky then... it works on their site...

http://www.onthethrottle.com/content/view/77/72/

[AubreyR6]

Devin and I have already signed up for this. Had a horrible experience at Gingerman last year, hopefully there will be no monsoons and I'll actually be able to ride this track...

[marc_padin]

I am interested in going too... need to coordinate with other people to be able to transport my bike. So until then, I am on the fence on this one...

[DemonRR]

so who's gonna bring the weed whacker to "pre trim" before the trackday?

lol

[Sammy Bono]

didnt they repave most of it?

[Zepp]

I'm going to be doing this trackday too.

Brad, If you want to go, I can bring your bike for you.

[WANARYD]

Looks like we will be do all kinds of riding with you this year, Paul.

[karma]

Just signed up. They confirmed that this will be a standard three-group format.

[six2one]

i wonder how much shit the lemons guys fucked up this past weekend

[curveman]

This was going to be my 1st track day with my crew family issues sending me to PA that weekend and AZ the week after June looks like two track day month!

[Zepp]

This track day has been opened up to everyone now, so if you plan to do it, register asap. I heard that this is filling up quickly now. I will be registering tomorrow morning

[curveman]

Devin and I have already signed up for this. Had a horrible experience at Gingerman last year, hopefully there will be no monsoons and I'll actually be able to ride this track...

That must of been the day my tent floated with me in it , you'll enjoy this Track aubrey it has good flow. The rain that day was unreal, well it started Friday night after afew beers and the tent got set up.

[tikki50]

oh man last year at the ducati rally was horrible for me, the monsoon that ruined my text, gear, popup, then the following day I high-sided what more can you ask for.... the perfect storm.

[AubreyR6]

Yeah, I am guessing we are talking about the same day... :rant: It looks like a fun track and I am looking forward to being able to ride it!

[Zepp]

Registered!!!

[DemonRR]

so whos all in and what group you runnin? the track bish is all set and ready to go. minus the glycol/ water wetter swap and putting the body work on. im gonna register tomorrow morning.

[karma]

I'll be there in Intermediate. Still getting back in the groove...

[DemonRR]

I'll be there in Intermediate. Still getting back in the groove...

:cool2:

anyone know of a decent hotel to crash at? ive never been to gingerman before and not much for camping or driving out at 4am the day of.

[WANARYD]

Aubrey and I are heading out there Sat morning and going to try an go to Founders Brewery for lunch. Then going to the track after that. If anyone wants to go your more then welcome to fellow us out there.


Was thinking about pitting by turn 1 and 2. That way we are not to far from the bathrooms.

[karma]

Are you guys camping?

[Zepp]

I'm registered for "A" group

I will be camping at the track too, arriving Sat evening

[WANARYD]

Are you guys camping?

As long as the weather is good we are.

[DemonRR]

i was late calling to register this morning, as they sold out. if anyone hears of an A or I spot for sale, let me know.
thanks

already looked on the stt forum, and made a wtb thread.

[jgreen]

Yahoo Weather is showing Sunny and 52 for Sunday. Talk about awesome track weather. Might be a little brisk in the AM, but will be great in the afternoon.

Have fun and be safe y'all. Hopefully I can be back out there with you guys some day.

[flamingemu]

So how did everyone do out there yesterday?

[Penthos]

So how did everyone do out there yesterday?
Paul, care to share? :cussing:

[flamingemu]

Paul, care to share? :cussing:
Uh-oh - that either means something really good or bad happened and I'm hoping for the former.

[tikki50]

oh please tell me Gingerman wasnt a crash fest.

[marc_padin]

You people should get a Facebook account! lol... :angel:

[AT1Mike]

what all is required to use the tracks up that way? classes, etc

[karma]

In my opinion, Gingerman isn't as bad as everyone says. It can be a fun little track. It is hard on tires. It does have seams - but you just need to ignore them. There are tons of places to make clean passes.

And, it was beautiful weather yesterday.

AT1Mike - Usually, you need to be a member of a trackday organization. A lot of people in this area use Sportbike Track Time (STT) - although there are several other options. Google them and you can see their schedule. I think the membership is $35. Although, every once in a while, they don't require a membership to ride an event (yesterday was one example).

[Penthos]

You people should get a Facebook account! lol... :angel:
I thought that's what this forum was for...:haha:

Besides the privacy rules of Facebook aren't to my liking.

[WANARYD]

I could not get over the seams. I tried all day.

I did have one good session when I followed you tho, Derek. Thanks for that and I'm looking forward to RA.

Aubrey went down but is ok, just real sore. She a trooper tho, cleaned the mud off the bike and she went back out the next session. I was very proud of her.

[karma]

No problem, Devin.

RA will be a blast. We'll have some good times there.

Yeah, Aubrey is a trooper. Just get right back on - that's the way to do it.

[Zepp]

Yes, I crashed in turn two yesterday. It was on the second lap of the session, just taking it easy still. I took a little different line than I had been taking earlier in the day. Well, that was a big mistake, I shouldn't have done that. I got my front tire caught in one of the seams that follows the corner and it threw me down hard. I lowsided the bike.

The track is really lousy. I didn't like it from the minute I got there and walked the track. It has two seams that follow the entire track through the corners. Some of the seams are almost two inches wide and deep. Then they just filled them with tar which allows the tire to slip and fall into the seams .

I have heard people say just cross the seams and don't worry about them. Well that doesn't always work too well when you are trying to get around and pass people. There are certain turns that the seams are really close to your line too where you are carrying a lot of speed too.

This track was built and intended for cars. They do not care about motorcycles at this track, only cars. WERA doesn't run here any more either, why do you think that is?

The track is not safe, I felt that way from the minute I saw it. MANY people crash here, very experienced people too, not just newbs.

I could ride on the WSL for free if I want conditions like this.

[jgreen]

Yes, I crashed in turn two yesterday. It was on the second lap of the session, just taking it easy still. I took a little different line than I had been taking earlier in the day. Well, that was a big mistake, I shouldn't have done that. I got my front tire caught in one of the seams that follows the corner and it threw me down hard. I lowsided the bike.

The track is really lousy. I didn't like it from the minute I got there and walked the track. It has two seams that follow the entire track through the corners. Some of the seams are almost two inches wide and deep. Then they just filled them with tar which allows the tire to slip and fall into the seams .

I have heard people say just cross the seams and don't worry about them. Well that doesn't always work too well when you are trying to get around and pass people. There are certain turns that the seams are really close to your line too where you are carrying a lot of speed too.

This track was built and intended for cars. They do not care about motorcycles at this track, only cars. WERA doesn't run here any more either, why do you think that is?

The track is not safe, I felt that way from the minute I saw it. MANY people crash here, very experienced people too, not just newbs.

I could ride on the WSL for free if I want conditions like this.

Agreed! Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect the opinions of people that like Gingerman, but I will not go back there. Waste of $$ IMO. I saw at least 10 people go down at the 1 trackday that I did there.

Sorry you crashed Paul, I hope you and the CBR are ok.

[flamingemu]

Sorry you crashed Paul, I hope you and the CBR are ok.

+1 That's a very nice CBR! Glad you're OK.

[karma]

Yeah, there are a LOT of people that don't like Gingerman. I just don't think it's that bad. I'm still a track newbie - I've only been to four different tracks - each multiple times. Gingerman is not my favorite - that falls on VIR. In fact, Gingerman may be my least favorite. But, Gingerman can be fun if you can get over the seams (which, I'll concede is difficult).

I always hate to see people go down. I had to watch Aubrey go down - I was right behind her. But, I'm glad everyone is ok.

[DemonRR]

glad everyones ok who went down. now that ive heard about gingerman formy uo guys, i dont think i can ever go there if i have to pay. i heard it was bad, but not that bad. i had a few other buddies form the cbr forum show up. they got bumped (told to, not asked) to A group as I group was WAY over booked.

[tikki50]

well I wrecked there last year exiting turn 3 right before turn 4. If those seams werent there the track would be easy to ride. Its those dam seams. So yeah when riding the track you can go fast but there's places on the track where you gotta be careful and not make those passes. Nature of the beast I guess. Im trying to think back I think the day I wrecked there were several wrecks like mroe than 15 or so. It was crazy hot, I mean hot.

I dont hate the track, its not my favorite but there aren't lots of track days around our area to pick from. So if it's gingerman so be it.

Do you guys know if there doing the tuesday/thursday test and tune evening days again? For 60$ is a bargin.

[AT1Mike]

what are you all's favorite track that is in the area. one you would recommend to someone like me that has never been.

[AlmightyS]

Grattan- close, technical, challenging, nice bathrooms LOL

Hit up a STT novice day you wotn regret it. Plenty of personal instruction and controlled track time. Chris aka Luckystrike on the board here is an instructor for them

[pavee]

what are you all's favorite track that is in the area. one you would recommend to someone like me that has never been.

Grattan is the closest track and is about 2-3 hours away. For your first time all you need is full gear (and if you don't have it, SOMEONE on here should have extra/old you can borrow). You'll probably run Novice the first time you go which is usually just tape over your lights but the rules change so check the STT website. You gotta pay the STT membership fee which is something like $35 but its good for a year PLUS you get a XXXL t-shirt.

So you tow your bike there somehow, I'm sure someone will be more than happy to find you a spot on their truck/trailer if you post up you'll split the gas bill.

You get there, sign in, have your bike checked out, they give a big ol' "Don't be a total fucking asshole" speech to the group, then they split everyone off and the novice people all meet and get split up into groups of about 3-10 depending on the turn out and you have a coach that works with you all day. Then some loser fuckstick will not secure their EZ-up and you will have to take them to small claims court when it damages your truck. The end.

[AubreyR6]

LoL - Annie nailed it on the head there! :)

I don't mind Gingerman at all, the seams are not the end of the world. As others have posted it can mess with your head at times but I am okay with them. After the 2 hour break (which makes me never want to go back on a Sunday), the first lap around I didn't give my tires enough time to warm up and went too hot into turn 11 off the back straight. Pushed me real wide and almost saved it but my front tire hit the sand and I was done for. Got help getting the bike picked up, rode it to the consession area to wash off the sand and was back out for the next session. Couldn't get my confidence up fully but was still able to ride at least and have a decent time, well, until my hip popped out of the socket later in the afternoon, damnit. :dunce:

Definitely a bit sore, found some new bruises this morning and my helmet is toast, but all is good! Wish there wasn't such a large group of douche bags there though... :dope:

The one thing I wasn't happy about is that some how, some way, they allowed 46 people to sign up for "I" group and asked a couple to bump up to "A". Never had this experience with STT before but it wasn't the end of the world, just had a couple opportunities to pass large groups of people at a time. :thumbup:

[Paragon]

The one thing I wasn't happy about is that some how, some way, they allowed 46 people to sign up for "I" group and asked a couple to bump up to "A". Never had this experience with STT before but it wasn't the end of the world, just had a couple opportunities to pass large groups of people at a time. :thumbup:

I've seen you ride, you're ready for "A" :cool2:

[pavee]

LoL - Annie nailed it on the head there! :)

I don't mind Gingerman at all, the seams are not the end of the world. As others have posted it can mess with your head at times but I am okay with them. After the 2 hour break (which makes me never want to go back on a Sunday), the first lap around I didn't give my tires enough time to warm up and went too hot into turn 11 off the back straight. Pushed me real wide and almost saved it but my front tire hit the sand and I was done for. Got help getting the bike picked up, rode it to the consession area to wash off the sand and was back out for the next session. Couldn't get my confidence up fully but was still able to ride at least and have a decent time, well, until my hip popped out of the socket later in the afternoon, damnit. :dunce:

Definitely a bit sore, found some new bruises this morning and my helmet is toast, but all is good! Wish there wasn't such a large group of douche bags there though... :dope:

The one thing I wasn't happy about is that some how, some way, they allowed 46 people to sign up for "I" group and asked a couple to bump up to "A". Never had this experience with STT before but it wasn't the end of the world, just had a couple opportunities to pass large groups of people at a time. :thumbup:

Way to get back out again.

Sometimes bikes just need a little nap. They just do and they take it wherever they damn well please. And then jgreen laffs at you. Because you don't take yourself too seriously and get butt hurt.

P.S. Jane, come get your microwave so you can make me a sammich in the kitchen where you belong!

[AT1Mike]

I will sign up for STT after I am in the area a while and get acustomed to the new budget. dont want to over do it $$$ wise as soon as I get there. A track day is something i have been wanting for a LONG time.

[tikki50]

AT1 you wont regret it its well worth the money spent.

As for tracks I honestly think Gingerman is not bad for a beginner. Its a fairly easy track to learn and there arent many spots that are that difficult. Grattan is a great track, like others said, very technical lots of elevation changes etc. Gingerman is flat and fairly easy its more of a car track so its hard on tires and brakes.

Gingerman Simplified: Turn, squirt, brake, repeat.

[curveman]

what are you all's favorite track that is in the area. one you would recommend to someone like me that has never been.

Just stay clear from the good looking rider on the Black Kaw with the high handlebars.................lol


She look so cute last year on the track............

Grattan is a very good 1st track for any rider looking to get HOOKED! :thumbup:

[ShtNgiT]

im glad everyone is ok. One day when i can afford track monies, i will make it a day to come out and have some fun with some of you. But til then, you will see me on the wsl.

[AubreyR6]

I've seen you ride, you're ready for "A" :cool2:


Thanks Jerry but there is definitely a lack of confidence with me when it comes to track riding with me for some reason. I feel good in what I am doing but for some reason don't feel as good as the others... I guess I get discouraged easily...

[Headlight]

Thanks Jerry but there is definitely a lack of confidence with me when it comes to track riding with me for some reason. I feel good in what I am doing but for some reason don't feel as good as the others... I guess I get discouraged easily...

I know exactly what your saying.

[flamingemu]

I know exactly what your saying.

Thanks Jerry but there is definitely a lack of confidence with me when it comes to track riding with me for some reason. I feel good in what I am doing but for some reason don't feel as good as the others... I guess I get discouraged easily...

Hmm....you both ride Yamaha's too. I see a pattern developing here!

[Zepp]

hmm....you both ride yamaha's too. I see a pattern developing here!

lol

[Dep411]

the best part of gingerman are the two seams that mess with your head. I love how people use them as an excuses but if you don't think about them it ain't Sheyat.

[Dep411]

oh please tell me Gingerman wasnt a crash fest.

it was they canceled the last a session because of it. but all groups had incidents

[flamingemu]

the best part of gingerman are the two seams that mess with your head. I love how people use them as an excuses but if you don't think about them it ain't Sheyat.

The irony is I go to the track to avoid such road conditions - seems silly to give someone money to fall down and go boom!

[Dep411]

The irony is I go to the track to avoid such road conditions - seems silly to give someone money to fall down and go boom!

True that, I bet that's why its always one bill to ride it... Seems Silly ( now that's funny )

[Zepp]

The irony is I go to the track to avoid such road conditions - seems silly to give someone money to fall down and go boom!

Agreed!!!

[Paragon]

G-man is THE SUCK. Go ride tracks like VIR, Road Atlanta, Willow Springs, or Road America, and tell me G-man is anything but a sucky local track people only ride because it's cheap :dunno:

[karma]

I like the variety – and as I’ve said, I don’t mind Gingerman at all. It can be fun. Half the fun of track riding is the diversity in the tracks. Grattan is very technical – and that makes it fun. Mid-Ohio is very flowing and fast – and that makes it fun. VIR has it all – and that makes it fun. Gingerman is a different animal – which changes when your speed picks up – and that makes it fun.

There’s a reason that race series (MotoGP, World SBK, WERA, whatever) ride several different tracks – because being fast at one track doesn’t prove which is the best rider. Each of these tracks has something different to offer and presents different challenges. If you want to be good – you learn to ride as many as you can. Some tracks suit my riding style better than others. I like Mid-Ohio a shit-ton more than Grattan. That said, I enjoy Grattan for what it is. Same with Gingerman. Same with __________ (insert track name). But, that’s just me…

[AubreyR6]

Hmm....you both ride Yamaha's too. I see a pattern developing here!


Hey now! :warning:

[Headlight]

Hey now! :warning:

I'll let you handle this one.